What's Going On In Georgia?

Pollster.com lists Georgia as one of only two states (with Montana) that qualify as "Lean Republican." The others are either solid red, toss-up or are some shade of blue. Looking at the Georgia polls over the past few months, it's actually been pretty consistently a single digit race (the Pollster trend estimate has McCain up by 7), which is pretty remarkable given that Bush won Georgia by 17 points just 4 years ago.

The latest poll out of the state is from Survey USA, which shows McCain up by 8, a net gain of 3 points for Obama since the last week of September.

One thing to look out for in Georgia is the early voting, which started there on September 22. Ben Smith is reporting that as of Tuesday, just about 500,000 voters have cast ballots early or absentee, which is 75,000 more than voted early in all of 2004. Another stunning figure: 37% of them are African-Americans, a group that makes up 29% of the population and a group that Survey USA estimates will make up 26% of the electorate. Are we seeing yet another under-estimation of African-American turnout? Not that it will be above 30% necessarily, but one suspects that it might reach their proportion of the population, as PPP is estimating it will in North Carolina. As for who's winning the early voting in SUSA's poll, it really should come as no surprise:

Early and absentee voting began in Georgia on 09/22/08. Among the 18% of Georgia voters who tell SurveyUSA they have already voted, Obama leads by 6 points; among those who have not yet voted, McCain leads by 11.

Obama is banking votes at a record pace and the further behind McCain gets nationwide, the less motivated McCain supporters will be to even show up on Nov. 4th, let alone before. Georgia could turn out to be a sleeper.

It also is home to one of the more intriguing senate races of the cycle. Most estimates consider Democrats to be fairly likely to win 8 seats for a 59 seat total in the Senate with Lieberman (Nate Silver's model gives it a better than 40% chance) and by the look of things, Jim Martin in Georgia may be poised to be the 60th.

One recent poll has Martin tied with Saxby Chambliss and the SUSA poll that had McCain up 8 has Chambliss up just 3. In an interesting sign of some Obama coattails, Jim Martin is winning those who have already voted by 4 points, while Chambliss is winning those who've yet to vote by 4 points. Although, since Martin is outperforming Obama in the state, here's hoping Martin helps Obama as much as Obama helps him.

A few more signs of real momentum in Jim Martin's direction:

  • The DSCC has bought $500,000 in ad time for Martin
  • Take a look at what Charlie Cook has to say about the race (h/t Brownsox):

    We moved Georgia to Lean Republican last week (see October 9 Update), but what we are hearing from political insiders familiar with the state leads us to move it over to Toss Up today.
  • And the largest newspaper in Georgia, The Atlanta Journal Constitution, has endorsed Martin. They begin their endorsement:

    n his almost six years in the U.S. Senate, Saxby Chambliss has built a reputation as a loyal defender of President Bush and his policies and as a champion of corporate interests.

    The people of Georgia now have to decide whether that's the senator they want for the next six years as well.

    And conclude:

    [Jim Martin] is what he seems like, a smart guy who wants to help his fellow Georgians and doesn't care who gets the credit. [...]

    Overall...the best candidate is Martin. In what look to be six difficult years ahead, he would do well for the people of Georgia.

Help Jim Martin continue to build on his momentum over at ActBlue.



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Re: What's Going On In Georgia? (2.00 / 1)

Go Georgia!  It's nice that Democratic prospects in my state are looking up for a change.

Here's some more anecdotal evidence of a possible Georgia sleeper.  Half the voters voting early in Cobb County were black and none got out of line despite the wait.  Cobb County is historically Republican, racist, and homophobic.  However, like other suburbs, it is changing, getting more diverse.  It is home to the third largest public university in Georgia.  Cobb is and will be important to a future Democratic majority in Georgia.

http://www.ajc.com/metro/content/shared- blogs/ajc/politicalinsider/entries/2008/ 10/14/early_voting_in_cobb_none_who.html #comments


by TheUnknown285 on Wed Oct 15, 2008 at 04:09:05 AM EST

I voted yesterday (2.00 / 3)

I early voted yesterday. I live in Gwinnett County which has been fairly reliably republican. I was thrilled to see the long line stretching out into the parking lot when I pulled in. The wait was over an hour and a half but well worth it. I was very pleased to note that at least 40% of the line was African American, and there were lots of young people. It was encouraging and thrilling to vote for Obama and Jim Martin.


by jadegirl on Wed Oct 15, 2008 at 05:30:40 AM EST

Another good sign (2.00 / 1)

Like Cobb, Gwinnett is another county we have got to start making real progress in to win statewide.

BTW, I hope you also voted for Jim Powell for PSC.


by TheUnknown285 on Wed Oct 15, 2008 at 07:36:01 AM EST
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Re: What's Going On In Georgia? (2.00 / 1)

Doctrinaire Republicans are mega-pissed at Chambliss over his yes vote on the bailout, and are openly  expressing feelings of betrayal. Jim Martin was ahead of the curve on that one and has made a lot of hay on it.

The massive gas shortage has also majorly cut into GOP support in the Atlanta 'burbs, Gingrich country.


by Jim J on Wed Oct 15, 2008 at 07:53:06 AM EST

Spending (2.00 / 1)

House Democrats are also doing their best to bring in new districts. The DCCC poured millions in more than 40 districts yesterday, while the NRCC barely manages to stay up in a few.

Democrats are truly expanding the map here - they have even passed the $1 million mark in AZ-03 Details here.


by LeftistAddiction on Wed Oct 15, 2008 at 08:07:57 AM EST

question somewhat related to this race (2.00 / 1)

A friend told me yesterday that in the 2006 elections, the Republican incumbents who realized they were in trouble in the summer did better than the Republicans who only realized they were in trouble in late September or October.

Virginia Congressman Tom Davis may have even said something to that effect, but I can't find a link to anything.

Does anyone know 1) if that's been documented, and 2) where I can find a link to an article about it?

I have said it before, and I'll say it again: a few Republicans who never saw it coming are going to lose on November 4. It would be very sweet to see Chambliss go down after his seat was considered safe Republican for most of the year.

I think IA-05 (crazy Steve King) could be one of those sleeper races.


See if Saxby Chambliss is helping you.
by desmoinesdem on Wed Oct 15, 2008 at 08:44:58 AM EST

Re: What's Going On In Georgia? (2.00 / 1)

I handed in my absentee ballot (in person) on Monday, in Dekalb County, and the line to vote was very long.  The atmosphere was amazing, there was a feeling of excitement and anticipation in the air.  Of course, Dekalb County is heavily Democratic anyway, but I got the feeling that there were many in line who were voting for the first time in their lives.  The turnout should be huge.

The great thing about Martin is that he is really a good guy, very progressive, and not at all a blue dog Democrat.  And there is a liberatarian candidate on the ballot who will probably get votes from a fair number of Republicans mad at Chambliss for voting for the bailout.  Here's hoping Martin can pull it off.


by evap on Wed Oct 15, 2008 at 08:55:25 AM EST

Re: What's Going On In Georgia? (2.00 / 1)

I thought Georgia was over when Barr didn't take off, but I guess not.


by Bush Bites on Wed Oct 15, 2008 at 09:01:24 AM EST

The Turning Point in Georgia (2.00 / 1)

...was the recent gas shortage. Every Republican had a different take on it, and the Republican Governor was out of the state.

Add to that the Wall Street Bailout, where Chambliss voted aye and the rightroots hammered him on it. There is a serious split in the GOP here between the "business wing" and the "ideological wing," the former responding to the real estate industry, the latter to nutjobs like Erick Erickson, Jason Pye and Buzz Brockway.

After watching ambitious Republican state legislators conduct a circular firing squad against one another during the legislative session, I think this was the last straw for many.

Chambliss has responded with more advertising, but interesting, he has yet to go negative in a big way against Democrat Jim Martin.

I have covered this at voic.us before, and will have a new report today, as seen through the eyes of the state's bloggers (on both sides). http://www.voic.us/danablankenhorn/2425/ under_the_radar_in_georgia


by Dana Blankenhorn on Wed Oct 15, 2008 at 09:21:00 AM EST

Re: What's Going On In Georgia? (none / 0)

I'm in Dekalb but I am waiting to vote on Election Day. I am excited about Jim Martin.
I may be naive, but I sent his campaign 50$
last week and I actually got a little signed thankyou card in the mail. I am a sucker for good manners, so I am sending him more today ;)
by Roberta on Wed Oct 15, 2008 at 09:32:29 AM EST

A little cold water, not a lot...... (2.00 / 1)

A couple things to temper our enthusiasm in the spirit of realism......

First, too many people unfamiliar with early voting patterns seem to think the racial or partisan breakdown in early voting mirrors election day voting in a given state.  That's not true.  I don't know what the pattern is in Georgia, but in North Carolina black voters are successfully pushed to vote early very disproportionately so that their numbers are inflated in early voting only to come way down on election day, leveling out to about their population share and actually slightly lower.  We saw this in the primary earlier this year.  The same goes for Iowa where Democrats get a LOT of people to vote early and get a big leg up on Repbulicans, only to have most election day voters vote Republican.  Kerry banked a huge lead in Iowa early voting in 2004, only to lose the state anyway as Dubya swamped us on election day.  So as Todd implied, don't assume 37% black vote share in Georgia early voting will end up anything close to the final black vote share.  I'm HOPEFUL that black voters will make up AT LEAST their population share, and I'm betting we'll slightly exceed it, but we don't know until we know and we can't assume.

Second, the newspaper endorsement is worth very little.  It helps score points in a news cycle for a day by generating positive news in and of itself, but it doesn't move votes in the big picture.  Newspaper endorsements are always way overrated by too many people.

All that said, if Charlie Cook says his insider sources tell him Georgia has become a toss-up, then it's a toss-up.  I generally trust the likes of Cook and Rothenberg where their sources are concerned...not always, but mostly.


by DCCyclone on Wed Oct 15, 2008 at 09:32:36 AM EST

3.3 Million voted in Pres. election in GA in 2004 (none / 0)

Just to provide a standard of comparison.  Just over 3.2 million voted in the Senate race that year.


by RT on Wed Oct 15, 2008 at 09:57:13 AM EST

Re: What's Going On In Georgia? (none / 0)

The Black vote is definitely going to be greater than 29%.   The Black population is very excited about this race and the Obama camp did a fantastic job of registering new voters of all ages.  This election is a huge deal for all those older voters who suffered through Jim Crow and were denied the right to vote in their younger days.

All of the GOP voters that I know are very demoralized.    While most will probably still make it to the polls, unenthusiastic voters are not what you want to be relying on.


by gavoter on Wed Oct 15, 2008 at 10:21:36 AM EST

Put your money where your heart is (none / 0)

I just threw Martin some money. If anyone has any money left after the meltdown, this would be a good way to spend some of it.  


"As Putin rears his head and comes into the air space of the United States of America, where-where do they go? It's Alaska. It's just right over the border."
by fugazi on Wed Oct 15, 2008 at 03:25:43 PM EST

Re: On the other hand (none / 0)

If you owe more on your wheels than your SUV is worth, you are deep under water with your mortgage, you already have heavy credit card debt, and you know you're going to lose your job in the "worst recession since" the First Great Depression, just go ahead and charge a big contribution to Martin on your credit card. The Democrats might be able to save your ass, nothing else will!


by Woody on Wed Oct 15, 2008 at 05:55:55 PM EST
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Re: What's Going On In Georgia? (none / 0)

I can't believe these Intrade prices in Georgia. The hoopla on 538 and elsewhere is allowing pickup wagers, better than any interest rate I've ever seen.

Keep it up. :)


by Gary Kilbride on Wed Oct 15, 2008 at 06:23:07 PM EST


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